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Lausten,

I linked the first link, so obviously we are reaching different conclusions from the same argument. The second link is closer to what you said, but you left out “logical necessity”.

All the links I sent you say exactly what I said in the first place, merely reworded.  There is no ambiguity here.  My characterization of Carrier has been spot on from the beginning and your accusation of a complete mischaracterization has been nonsense all along.  You are the one in need of considering how to have a conversation, I will give you a tip, before you accuse somebody of getting it all wrong look up what he is talking about and figure out you are the one who has it wrong.

You sifting through long posts by Carrier to pick out words I did not include in my short posts is just more of your obfuscation.  The “logical necessity” is how Carrier gets it wrong, among various errors he makes.

Carrier claims literally anything can pop out of absolutely nothing at all uncaused because there are no rules in nothing to stop it.

That’s it.  That is his claim.  It is obvious because he says it over and over again in a variety of posts on his own blog as well as in his videoed talks.