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I was in the right place, at the wrong time. While I was sending my last post, Tee, unbeknownst to me was sending her post (above mine). So now I am responding to Tee’s post.

Wow you went to some dark places to support your assertion that IDer types have a pretty intense fear of “science”. I am not disputing you.  I just don’t get how they can be so afraid of “science” without being stupid and ignorant.  But it does make sense not to highlight someone’s stupidity and ignorance when you are engaging with him.